JUAN GONZALEZ: A humanitarian aid convoy carrying food and medical supplies has arrived in Gaza nearly a month after it embarked from Britain. Members of the Viva Palestina convoy began passing through Egypt’s Rafah border crossing into Gaza on Wednesday. They’re expected to spend the next forty-eight hours distributing the aid supplies.
The convoy was delayed by more than a week
following a dispute with the Egyptian government. Hours before the
convoy’s entry into Gaza yesterday, an Egyptian soldier was shot dead
during a clash with Palestinian protesters who had gathered along the
border to protest the delay. At least thirty-five Palestinians were
wounded. On Tuesday, Egyptian forces clashed with members of the Viva
Palestina convoy, wounding more than fifty.
AMY GOODMAN: Egypt and Israel have been maintaining a strict blockade on Gaza since 2007, allowing only the most basic supplies to get through. Viva Palestina’s arrival in Gaza comes a year after the three-week Israeli assault that killed over 1,300 Palestinians.
British parliamentarian George Galloway led the Viva Palestina
convoy. He joins us now on the phone right now from Gaza.
Welcome to Democracy Now!
GEORGE GALLOWAY: Thank you. Good morning.
AMY GOODMAN: Can you tell us what happened? We hear a number
of people in your convoy were beaten up, were hurt, some hospitalized.
GEORGE GALLOWAY: Yes, fifty-five, in fact, were injured,
some of them quite severely. Ten of them had to go to hospital. All of
them entered Gaza with us, but we have a collection of broken heads and
plaster casts and bloodied faces and clothes.
It’s quite a testimony to the role that the government of Egypt
is playing in this siege that you have just admirably described. It was
entirely unprovoked. It was an attack on unarmed civilian people. And
it was very frightening and brutal. And, of course, it was of a piece
with the way that the Gaza Freedom Marchers were treated in the center
of Cairo in the middle of the tourist season just days before.
JUAN GONZALEZ: What kind of coverage did that attack
receive in the Egyptian media? And did it have any impact on the
government’s decision to then let the convoy pass?
GEORGE GALLOWAY: Well, the good news is that nobody
watches the Egyptian media in Egypt. All of them watch the pan-Arabic
stations like Al Jazeera, satellite stations, which have broken the
censorship walls of the dictatorships in the Arab world. And so,
everybody in Egypt knows what happened in that little port of Al-Arish,
and the vast majority of them, I’m sure, completely disapprove of it,
indeed denounce it.
The Egyptian people are entirely behind the Palestinians under
siege. Unfortunately, they are ill-served by a government that is
playing a quite despicable role, actually, just few yards from where I
am now. The Egyptians are building what we call the wall of shame,
which is being done in conjunction with the United States military, to
try and choke off the tunnels, which are the only other means of
bringing life into Gaza, in which sheep and chickens and petrol and gas
and the other means of staying alive, other than medicine—because if I
may correct something you did say in the introduction, you said we were
bringing food and medicine, but we were only bringing medicine, because
food is actually not allowed to come through the Rafah gate from Egypt
into Gaza. Food must pass through the Israeli lines, because, of
course, they say they are concerned about the safety of the food. They
don’t want to cause any food poisoning in Gaza, you understand.
AMY GOODMAN: Can you describe the condition of Gaza? It’s
been a year since the Israeli assault. You were there last year also
trying to bring in aid.
GEORGE GALLOWAY: It’s desperate. If I give you a tiny
example only to give you an example, I’m here in quite a nice hotel,
except there is no food in the hotel. There’s no food for breakfast,
there’s no food for lunch. Now I make that point only to illustrate
that if there’s no food in the best hotel in Gaza, imagine what the
people are suffering. I’ve watched with my own eyes Palestinian women
and girls in the early morning mists on top of garbage heaps, combing
through the garbage heaps looking for food. In an Arab Muslim country
in 2009 and ’10, it’s a absolutely scandalous situation.
And, Amy, remember why and how it came about. It’s been imposed
by men. It’s not a natural disaster. It’s been imposed by men to punish
the people of Palestine for voting for a party in a free election that
the big powers, including yours and mine and Israel, don’t like. Now, I
myself would not have voted for them; I’m not a Hamas supporter. But
the only people entitled to choose the leadership of the Palestinians
are the Palestinians themselves.
AMY GOODMAN: Have you been meeting—as a British member of
Parliament, did you meet with any Egyptian leaders? And is there an
explanation of why the Gaza Freedom March was kept out—they allowed in
about a hundred people, but many refused under those conditions—and why
the Egyptian government is stopping these peace activists from entering
Gaza?
GEORGE GALLOWAY: Well, I’m glad to say that at every
stage we insisted on all of our convoy entering Gaza, and we refused to
leave Al-Arish without our prisoners, six people who were being held
prisoner by the Egyptian government’s forces. And we refused to accept
the exclusion from Egypt of some of our convoy members, all of whom
were initially excluded, but all, in the end, were let in and are with
me in Gaza. So, in terms of solidarity, I’m proud of what we have
achieved.
No, there’s no explanation from the Egyptian regime at all. How
could there be, in a way? How do you explain to anyone that Egypt, once
the heart of the Arab world, is now playing a part in building an iron
wall of shame around a suffering people who are being effectively
starved, they hope, into surrender, but if not into surrender, then
into death?
JUAN GONZALEZ: And George Galloway, your sense of how the
Palestinian leadership is regarding the policies of the United States?
Now we’re a year into the Obama administration. He’s, on the one hand,
attempted to reach out to the Arab world in a way the Bush
administration never did, but in terms of Palestine and the conflict
with Israel, there doesn’t seem to be a whole lot of change.
GEORGE GALLOWAY: Well, I must tell you, Juan, as someone
who, myself, on my radio shows and TV shows and so on, campaigned for
the election of Barack Obama, tried very hard to persuade people on the
left that they were making a kind of utopian mistake in not supporting
Obama, there is a tremendous bitter disappointment here in Palestine,
and indeed wider than that, at the role that President Obama is
currently playing, or rather not playing. His speech in Cairo was a
wonderful piece of work. It was mesmerizing. It transfixed the Arab
public opinion, that finally, after the Bush years, we had some hope.
But in practice, his policy—and one assumes Hillary Clinton is carrying
out his policy—is exactly the same as the policy of the Bushites
towards the people here. And there’s bitter, bitter disappointment
about that.
AMY GOODMAN: George Galloway, we want to thank you very much for being with us, a British MP leading the Viva Palestina aid convoy. Their whole convoy did get into Gaza through Egypt, though through a great deal of conflict, with a number of the delegation beaten up.